Transcription: It's important that they actually experience the hands-on so they realise that their own innate skills are better than they thought and that they can develop those under the guidance of their fellow trainees and myself of course. You don't want to solder in there do you? That's where your trains are at. Is it working? No. You want to use the lighter stuck on that? That is the light stuff. No it's not. No it's not. No it's not. There's the light stuff that's out in this ham. Cut that sleeper off. Oh I see, yeah. Okay. You cut that one off there. You need to cut that sleeper off. If you do somet ...